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s73ve_o · May 27, 2010, 12:05 AM // 00:05

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Originally Posted by Cool Down

But it's still not the rules of the race.... so just stop argueing.
When you said yes to playing this game, you said yes to playing it without bots as well.. so stop you stupid whining

getting that title is NOT playing the game. you sit in town doing nothing but clicking your mouse button. f that. there is no way that you can call zoning out watching tv except for the one time a minute as playing the game

snaek · May 27, 2010, 12:05 AM // 00:05

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.

the drunkard title was intended to be gained through manual clicking. you are bypassing this through a bot, which would be considered cheating. to better word your illustrated example (although it fails anyways because drunkard bots are used for pve purposes and race driving would be considered pvp), it would be like a driver with his class c car is pissed off because another driver entered the class c race with a class a car.

anyways, the point is that this game, much like any other, has rules; break them, and expect to be punished.

Bob Slydell · May 27, 2010, 12:05 AM // 00:05

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Originally Posted by byteme!

These "good players" got banned for botting. Botting makes players good? I don't think so.

Most of them are (oops... were, HAHA) condescending a- holes who look(ed) down on people and told them they are (oops...WERE) better than you.

Now some of them are gone and I literally cheered when I first saw all this action. WOoo!

Gill Halendt · May 27, 2010, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Find me a way in which this can be construed as malicious. And should something that is not proven to be malicious be acted upon.

You're basically saying that honest players not using an autoclicker are idiots.

Wonder why there was no built in drunkard bot. Better yet, we should all be getting the Drunkard title by just clicking once.

Sure.

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HawkofStorms · May 27, 2010, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Money sink titles the prestige has never been about the time to activate the gold sink, it's always been about having the initial gold to complete them.

Disagree. Drunkard is more about the time AND the money. That's why it's more prestigious then sweet tooth, and more prestigious then party points (even though party points were initially rarer and more expensive).

@s73ve_o: having worked on the drunkard title legitimately, you do not just drink ale while afking/watching tv. You drink ale all the time. When I'm playing PvE, I'm drinking. When I'm raptor farming (a farm that conveniently takes about 3 miniutes), drinking. When I'm selling stuff in chat, drinking. When I'm playing RA (not even kidding), drinking. Pretty easy to do when you turn off post processing effects.

Hellick Stoner · May 27, 2010, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by NerfHerder

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14. TERMINATION

(a) NC Interactive reserves the right to suspend or terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and without notice if you breach this Agreement or willfully infringe any third party intellectual property rights, or if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us, or upon game play, chat or any player activity whatsoever which is, in our sole discretion, inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of the Game(s) as described in the Rules of Conduct.

Should NC Interactive decide to suspend or terminate this Agreement with a User under any circumstances, the User will lose access to your Account.

(b) You agree that if the Service or your Account is suspended, terminated or cancelled for any reason or length of time, you are not entitled to any reimbursement or refund of any fees or unused access time.

And if you want to take it up with customer support, I dont think threats are going to help your case.

lol you sound as bad as them. you make no sense. that quote pertains IF I DID Violate the eula agreement, WHICH I DID NOT!

snaek · May 27, 2010, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Money sink titles the prestige has never been about the time to activate the gold sink, it's always been about having the initial gold to complete them.

says you? what do you think separates drunkard from the sweets title that causes people to think that drunkard is much more "prestigious" (lol).

Stuart444 · May 27, 2010, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by nicpid

banning "cheaters" in a dead game, this is classic ban-drafting, i don't trust u at all, i think that u are not capable to process 3.7k accounts now at this stage of the game, you just want to save sever resources, and your slowly shutting down GW cuz the GW2 beta will come in q4 this year.In the beginning the bots were ruining the economy of GW but now after 5 years the bots are the only thing that keeps this games economy rolling by pumping in the resources, consumable price will go sky high now and I didn't max those title yet so u made my task more difficult....

reading this hurts my eyes....

in any case, LOL @ Dead game, that was already covered though, LOL @ not trusting "you" (FYI it's not spelled "u")

and to save more LOLing, I'll just say LOL @ your post.

oh and in that last line, you say it made your task more difficult which basically means you admit to using a bot (or plan on using one but this has put you off it). That makes me lol a bit more tbh.

Regina Buenaobra · May 27, 2010, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

One question that I still have is about the /report command. This command has an option for reporting botters, but the statement that James Phinney gave only mentioned to go to Support for reporting botters. Can we still count on using the /report command for botters to have some kind of purpose or effect?

The /report command goes to Customer Support. We provided other options, like the email ([email protected]) or the web interface, to make it easier for players to report issues.

Lolwut1337 · May 27, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08

They could've at least let me buy the 2 obby armors I've been working 5-8 hrs/day for..wrote to A-net...we'll see what happens . :\

byteme! · May 27, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell

Most of them are (oops... were, HAHA) condescending a- holes who look(ed) down on people and told them they are (oops...WERE) better than you.

Now some of them are gone and I literally cheered when I first saw all this action. WOoo!

Ya I've played with some of these a-holes. I wasn't impressed.

s73ve_o · May 27, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

Since your thread about "your friend" botting got deleted let me offer you the same advise as the other troll here.

KEEP USING YOUR BOT and be sure to come post a giant QQ thread here so we can know how it worked out for you. errr I mean "your friend"

im not an idiot im not going to do something that gets me banned. and im not a troll (One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument). i have a point i am trying to make and thats the bottom line. i bought the game and i should be able to play how i want so long as it doesnt impact anyone else. Why would you be mad about other people doing autoclickers for ale hound other than jealosy that you waisted your time on bullshit that shouldnt be in the game in the first place when "my friend" skilled right by it.

Jeydra · May 27, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08

Excellent Regina, excellent! Best thing that happened to Guild Wars in recent memory.

Is there a list of all the banned accounts somewhere? I want to know if any my friends got banned (i.e. no point keeping them on friend's list anymore).

EDIT: Some people have said it's better to temporary ban with a warning of permanent ban if it goes on. I'm a firm believer of second chances, so yes I do think this is a better thing to do. However, I'll also say that harsh action is still better than no action at all. I can't say how excited this round of bannings got me, I'm just a bit sad I wasn't online when Dhuum reared his head over GW

Kumu Honua · May 27, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08

The only thing I can think of with this thread...

Glad to see this. Hope to see FAR more of it. Especially in JQ/FA.

Oggy · May 27, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell

Most of them are (oops... were, HAHA) condescending a- holes who look(ed) down on people and told them they are (oops...WERE) better than you.

Pot... kettle...

End · May 27, 2010, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by Hellick Stoner

lol you sound as bad as them. you make no sense. that quote pertains IF I DID Violate the eula agreement, WHICH I DID NOT!

Actually it dosen't just sayin....

not to mention I do believe section 11 applies in most areas

*Darcy* · May 27, 2010, 12:09 AM // 00:09

Thank you. My PvP consists of JQ and botters make it a misery to play. So, just Thank You.

BladeDVD · May 27, 2010, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.

Do you dispute that the drunkbot program is a bot? That's why it was banned, because it was a bot. People could create a bot that lets them open and close their storage all day long and it would also be against the rules because it is a bot.

It doesn't matter how much it actually "harms" anyone in the game, bots are against the EULA, use them and you have no defense if you get banned.

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Regarding the G15 keyboards...soon after they did the contest, they said that as long as they weren't used to automate game play, they were fine.

Assigning /resign to a key, or ; spacebar, that was fine, programming it to do the raptor run, not so much.

I think someone earlier was talking about hitting one key to activate hero skill 6...that's fine (heck, the game itself lets you do that) but hitting one key to activate skill 6 on all heroes, you're probably getting pretty close to asking for trouble in my opinion.

Cool Down · May 27, 2010, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by s73ve_o

getting that title is NOT playing the game. you sit in town doing nothing but clicking your mouse button. f that. there is no way that you can call zoning out watching tv except for the one time a minute as playing the game

Dude, you can run around in missions and explorable areas while being drunk.. there's even skills to use when your drunk, so there's no excuse

Joe Fierce · May 27, 2010, 12:10 AM // 00:10

Our bickering is useless either way, truth is either of us can just as easily be wrong, it's time for anet to quit dicking it up and just answer the simple question, drunkbot, bannable or not, answer that question and the shenanigans over it will end.